Comments on: WVU creates Bob Murray chair in mining department http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/ Just another The other blogs! weblog Sun, 12 Feb 2012 14:52:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: WVU students protest ‘dirty coal money’ donations « Coal Tattoo http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-22824 WVU students protest ‘dirty coal money’ donations « Coal Tattoo Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:11:04 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-22824 [...] Tattoo readers will recall that WVU named a chair’s position in its mining engineering department for a $1 million donation from Bob Murray of Murray Energy. WVU also recently collected a $500,000 [...] [...] Tattoo readers will recall that WVU named a chair’s position in its mining engineering department for a $1 million donation from Bob Murray of Murray Energy. WVU also recently collected a $500,000 [...]

]]> By: Friday roundup, Oct. 9., 2009 « Coal Tattoo http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-22754 Friday roundup, Oct. 9., 2009 « Coal Tattoo Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:48:55 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-22754 [...] student newspaper, WVU’s Daily Athenaeum, pick up on the issue of the university’s trading the name of a chairmanship for a donation from coal baron Bob Murray, whose company’s serious safety violations drew more than $1 million in federal fines for the [...] [...] student newspaper, WVU’s Daily Athenaeum, pick up on the issue of the university’s trading the name of a chairmanship for a donation from coal baron Bob Murray, whose company’s serious safety violations drew more than $1 million in federal fines for the [...]

]]> By: Nanette http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-17924 Nanette Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:49:58 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-17924 Ken has just posted on the very questions that you are asking. Murray has done more than a few dishonorable things. Go and read Ken's latest posting about Murray and his donation. I will add nothing further even though there is plenty that could be said. Ken has just posted on the very questions that you are asking. Murray has done more than a few dishonorable things. Go and read Ken’s latest posting about Murray and his donation. I will add nothing further even though there is plenty that could be said.

]]> By: rwc http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-17923 rwc Wed, 16 Sep 2009 18:43:00 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-17923 Oddly, there was no mention of the August 2007 Crandall Canyon disaster, which killed six miners and three rescue workers at one of Murray’s Utah deep mines. MSHA fined Murray’s company $1.34 million for mine safety violations it said led directly to the deaths. again pointing fingers to make sure people are remembered for the bad things that happen.wasn't the donation for the good of wvu or was it just a payoff to try to make himself look good?he has no ties into west virginia and it's coal,so what was the purpose of this?is that the only incident to happen on his coal propeties or does he have a bad safety record?you keep throwing in the bad,is there any good side or is he just another massey and blankenship? Oddly, there was no mention of the August 2007 Crandall Canyon disaster, which killed six miners and three rescue workers at one of Murray’s Utah deep mines. MSHA fined Murray’s company $1.34 million for mine safety violations it said led directly to the deaths.
again pointing fingers to make sure people are remembered for the bad things that happen.wasn’t the donation for the good of wvu or was it just a payoff to try to make himself look good?he has no ties into west virginia and it’s coal,so what was the purpose of this?is that the only incident to happen on his coal propeties or does he have a bad safety record?you keep throwing in the bad,is there any good side or is he just another massey and blankenship?

]]> By: Nanette http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-17925 Nanette Wed, 16 Sep 2009 05:47:29 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-17925 Might I add to the previous comment that MSHA was gutted under the Bush administration. Anyone who stood up against wrongdoings were severely punished. Jack Spadaro is an example of this. Jack is a good and honorable man, and look what they did to him. I sincerely hope that this administration does the right thing and holds the coal corporations accountable for breaking the law. Not a slap on the wrist, but hefty punishments for infractions of the law, and the people in MSHA who make sure that the laws are fully enforced to the limit should be rewarded. Might I add to the previous comment that MSHA was gutted under the Bush administration. Anyone who stood up against wrongdoings were severely punished. Jack Spadaro is an example of this. Jack is a good and honorable man, and look what they did to him. I sincerely hope that this administration does the right thing and holds the coal corporations accountable for breaking the law. Not a slap on the wrist, but hefty punishments for infractions of the law, and the people in MSHA who make sure that the laws are fully enforced to the limit should be rewarded.

]]> By: hollergirl http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-17926 hollergirl Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:11:12 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-17926 The blame for the Crandall Canyon disaster stops at Mr. Murray's desk and no other. It was his mine and he- ultimately- is the boss. Since he was once a coal miner, he also knew the danger of "retreat mining". There is no hate here. I find it strange that some of the "coal bosses" rant about the interference of MSHA and state safety officials until a disaster happens and then when the evidence of blame points to the coal company, the company immediately points to MSHA and the state. The blame for the Crandall Canyon disaster stops at Mr. Murray’s desk and no other. It was his mine and he- ultimately- is the boss. Since he was once a coal miner, he also knew the danger of “retreat mining”. There is no hate here. I find it strange that some of the “coal bosses” rant about the interference of MSHA and state safety officials until a disaster happens and then when the evidence of blame points to the coal company, the company immediately points to MSHA and the state.

]]> By: WVU Creates Bob “Cave-In” Murray Chair in Exchange for 1 Million Dollar Donation « FIFTH COLUMN http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-17927 WVU Creates Bob “Cave-In” Murray Chair in Exchange for 1 Million Dollar Donation « FIFTH COLUMN Mon, 14 Sep 2009 20:19:05 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-17927 [...] Ken Ward Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Crandall Canyon – Where’s Miner [...] [...] Ken Ward Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Crandall Canyon – Where’s Miner [...]

]]> By: Nanette http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-17928 Nanette Mon, 14 Sep 2009 16:23:47 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-17928 Mr. Spade, it is not hate. It is just the facts that Murray has been less than honorable. I don't think that just because someone gives money to a school that the person should be honored with a "chair". It is sad when money can buy just about anything, however in many people's minds money doesn't buy honor. That in no way means that we "hate" the man. Honor is something earned, not bought. Mr. Spade, it is not hate. It is just the facts that Murray has been less than honorable. I don’t think that just because someone gives money to a school that the person should be honored with a “chair”. It is sad when money can buy just about anything, however in many people’s minds money doesn’t buy honor. That in no way means that we “hate” the man.

Honor is something earned, not bought.

]]> By: scott 14 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-17929 scott 14 Sat, 12 Sep 2009 23:40:05 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-17929 Coalfire I agree with you totally Coalfire I agree with you totally

]]> By: coalfire http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-17930 coalfire Sat, 12 Sep 2009 19:13:07 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-17930 I think we should be grateful to Mr. Murray. He did not have to give anything. He just did. Lets face it. MSHA and the State of Utah killed those miners at Crandall Canyon. They issued the pillar plan. Should it have been issued? No, but I've seen worse things before. The management at the mine can even be blamed. The media was hard on Mr. Murray. No, I'm not related to him or know him. I also think the same way of Ben Hatfield. Mr. Hatfield was also given a raw deal by the media. I think we should be grateful to Mr. Murray. He did not have to give anything. He just did. Lets face it. MSHA and the State of Utah killed those miners at Crandall Canyon. They issued the pillar plan. Should it have been issued? No, but I’ve seen worse things before. The management at the mine can even be blamed. The media was hard on Mr. Murray. No, I’m not related to him or know him. I also think the same way of Ben Hatfield. Mr. Hatfield was also given a raw deal by the media.

]]> By: Clem Guttata http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-17931 Clem Guttata Sat, 12 Sep 2009 18:04:48 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-17931 Dell -- WVU should know that Mr. Murray, no matter how good of a friend of WVU, has a highly tarnished public image since the Crandall Canyon disaster. If Mr. Murray's motivation was to help WVU as much as possible, he would have made the donation anonymously. Dell — WVU should know that Mr. Murray, no matter how good of a friend of WVU, has a highly tarnished public image since the Crandall Canyon disaster. If Mr. Murray’s motivation was to help WVU as much as possible, he would have made the donation anonymously.

]]> By: Dell Spade http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-17932 Dell Spade Sat, 12 Sep 2009 14:19:31 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-17932 Most of the commenters do not know Mr. Murray. He has been a friend of WVU for many years. Keep your hate to yourself and accept his help for the school. Most of the commenters do not know Mr. Murray. He has been a friend of WVU for many years. Keep your hate to yourself and accept his help for the school.

]]> By: Rob http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-17933 Rob Sat, 12 Sep 2009 04:53:44 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-17933 Sorry folks, you overlooking the obvious. He's attempting to buy a place in heaven. And in time, he'll exhaust his fortune to meet this end. In a way, it's sad. Sorry folks, you overlooking the obvious. He’s attempting to buy a place in heaven. And in time, he’ll exhaust his fortune to meet this end. In a way, it’s sad.

]]> By: Brad http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-17935 Brad Sat, 12 Sep 2009 03:11:36 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-17935 Make that, "university" It needs quotes Make that, “university”

It needs quotes

]]> By: Brad http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-17934 Brad Sat, 12 Sep 2009 03:11:12 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-17934 How can you BUY a chair???? I don't guess I should be suprised since this is the same University that hands out unearned degrees. How can you BUY a chair????

I don’t guess I should be suprised since this is the same University that hands out unearned degrees.

]]> By: Ken Ward Jr. http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-17936 Ken Ward Jr. Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:55:27 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-17936 So there is no confusion, here's the language from MSHA's press release on the citations and fines (The $1.34 million figure I cited was only for the contributory violations): The U.S. Department of Labor's Mine Safety and Health Administration (MSHA) today announced that it has fined the operator of the Crandall Canyon Mine in Emery County, Utah, $1,340,000 for violations that directly contributed to the deaths of six miners last year. Agapito Associates Inc., a mining engineering consultant, was fined $220,000 for faulty analysis of the mine's design. MSHA cited the mine operator for 11 additional, noncontributory violations issued as the result of the investigation. The proposed penalty for these violations is $296,664, bringing the total proposed penalties against the mine operator to $1,636,664. Crandall Canyon Mine is operated by Genwal Resources Inc., whose parent company is Murray Energy Corp. So there is no confusion, here’s the language from MSHA’s press release on the citations and fines (The $1.34 million figure I cited was only for the contributory violations):

The U.S. Department of Labor’s Mine Safety and Health Administration (MSHA) today announced that it has fined the operator of the Crandall Canyon Mine in Emery County, Utah, $1,340,000 for violations that directly contributed to the deaths of six miners last year. Agapito Associates Inc., a mining engineering consultant, was fined $220,000 for faulty analysis of the mine’s design. MSHA cited the mine operator for 11 additional, noncontributory violations issued as the result of the investigation. The proposed penalty for these violations is $296,664, bringing the total proposed penalties against the mine operator to $1,636,664. Crandall Canyon Mine is operated by Genwal Resources Inc., whose parent company is Murray Energy Corp.

]]> By: Nanette http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-17938 Nanette Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:12:59 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-17938 Clem, where and why did you come up with the odd number of 1.34 million? Is there a meaning behind that number? As far as I am concerned the chair shouldn't have been given for money anyway. Merit would have been better I think. Clem, where and why did you come up with the odd number of 1.34 million? Is there a meaning behind that number? As far as I am concerned the chair shouldn’t have been given for money anyway. Merit would have been better I think.

]]> By: Clem Guttata http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-17937 Clem Guttata Fri, 11 Sep 2009 21:00:14 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-17937 They sold the chair for too low of a price. They should have asked him for a $1.34 million donation. They sold the chair for too low of a price. They should have asked him for a $1.34 million donation.

]]> By: Nanette http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/comment-page-1/#comment-17939 Nanette Fri, 11 Sep 2009 20:21:34 +0000 http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/09/11/wvu-creates-bob-murray-chair-in-mining-department/#comment-17939 Oh please! You can't be serious. Ken this is not April Fool's Day. A man with the reputation of Murray deserves a chair named after him? Well he didn't deserve it, it appears that he bought it. I reckon that money always talks and ethics usually walks. Such a shame. Oh please! You can’t be serious. Ken this is not April Fool’s Day. A man with the reputation of Murray deserves a chair named after him? Well he didn’t deserve it, it appears that he bought it. I reckon that money always talks and ethics usually walks. Such a shame.

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